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I feel like euthanasia and assisted suicide should be legal. What's the point of keep living in pain and misery. And possibly attempting suicide on your own with better chances of ending up with brain damage or other severe impairments than actually succeding in killing yourself
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I can agree with some caveats.
Like, for myself, I would've opted many times over to take that path. Though, if I had, well I wouldn't be on the verge of finally getting somewhere with my depression.
So if I were to say anything it would be this:
1. It CANNOT be government influenced nor controlled. Because government just screws things up.
2. There has to be standard practice that requires evidence of extreme circumstances such as terminal illness, terminal cancer, any kind of injury or physical disability that would severely hinder quality of life.
3. Mental illness procedures would require a 5 year minimum of intense therapy AND medication with the final year being LIVE-IN facilities designed to attempt helping the patient build a better life; financial education and classes, emotional recovery classes, team building exercises, volunteer activities, job placement assistance and referral programs (i.e. not just a job board but actually placing the patient in a position), relationship guidance and counseling (familial, friendship and even some romantic) and IF after all that had failed, then and only then would a mental illness case be granted AS.
4. The entire operation functions on public donations. No private sectors sticking nurses in positions they don't want to be in, no corporate overhead nor influence. Just plain, old people who actually want to work there and actually give a damn about patient outcome and only patients who actually need these kinds of services due to extremely strenuous life circumstances.
ReplyThat would be ideal. But requiere lots of money and resources. Maybe someday ONGs or groups appear. But for now I guess I'll have to just risk it if I don't have the resources to fix me.
Glad that you made it this far and thanks for taking the time to read and comment my post
ReplyWhat resources do you feel you lack? And would there be any method to subsidize or replace whatever you lack with an alternative?
ReplyBasically, I'm unable to find and keep a job. The few jobs I get are too hard and end up quitting or getting fired. And it takes me a lot of time to get one. I can't provide for myself and can't ask my parents more than they already help. They have their own financial problems
ReplyVery touchy situation but intellectually I agree that it should be legal for those who are mature enough to take a decision like this. However, the definition of pain is sometimes subjective itself. I am talking about emotional pain here not physical. You look at yourself 5 years ago on how you react on a certain situation and see that you feel different about things today. Sometimes we feel that the pain we go through is permanent but really there is nothing permanent unless we make it permanen. I am trying to say there may be other ways to get rid of this kind of pain than suicide. Life is unique. If we accept life with the pain we are going thru for now, maybe there will be other doors opening to us to free us from this pain, maybe not but this is the experience we are going thru and nobody is to say they know what life will be like in the future. One thing is certain in the future and that is change. If we think we know what life is going to be like for us in the future, that means we are working towards getting there consciously or subconsciously and it is true that for unexplained reasons, we are trying to sabotage ourselves too. Maybe we can start new and a new life could borne. If that does not work, maybe try again. If you have not failed, you are not trying. If you have failed you shouldn't automatically react negatively. If you are failing, that means you are trying to do something difficult. In reality, we learn more of our mistakes than successes. While going thru those rocks, sometimes you see happiness but I try to look for joy rather than happiness as there is no permanent happiness. It is just an emotional state of a certain outcome and is temporary. Totally overrated:)
ReplyI really liked what you said. I had to come back and re read it again bc I can't think clearly in this state I am. The thing is I'm trying and failing and everything seem to hard to the point that I see myself in the street like a hobo asking for food. I don't know if I can do better than that on my own skills and strenghts. And that is not a life either.
ReplyAs a lifelong depressed, suicidal person I have a few unexpected thoughts on this subject. As much as I want to die, like NOW, I don’t think there should be assisted suicide (except in the case of people who are bedridden or paralyzed). This is because I don’t think suicide should be easy. It should be hard as hell, so only those who are absolutely 100% hell bent on dying should do it. And what better way to make it hard than to force the person to do it alone?
As for failed attempts and such, I think that goes along with my point. People who are absolutely sure they want to die will generally take the most lethal route. They won’t waste anyone’s time with pills (less than 1% successful) or other ineffective ways. I won’t list the most lethal methods but you can guess.
I’ve given this a lot of thought on many nights when I wish someone could just push a button and kill me. But I guess that’s the point I’m making... it shouldn’t be as easy as pushing a button (or in the case of assisted suicide, paying someone to push a button for you). When it’s my time, which I hope will be very soon, I won’t need anyone’s help. Until then I guess I’ll just have to deal with the pain of life.
ReplyYou made good points. I hope you find a way out of your pain without ending your life though.
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