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Not so much the character, but how parents have their kids FULLY believe in santa's existence. Like, once I watched two kids walk up to "santa" at a church event, fully believing he remembered them from when they saw him somewhere else. It's so weird to me to trick your kids into believing in it for their childhood just to break their hearts at some point, or just let them figure it out on their own. I can appreciate the tradition of it but creating this elaborate lie just so your kids might behave a little better is strange. Although, I don't have kids, so maybe it is worth it for a little more peace and quiet. I'm not trying to be cynical, its a nice idea that a man cares about all the children of the world and thinks about them all year, but the practice of it is questionable to me. Agree or disagree? let me know why/why not.
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Totally agree. Why would parents create a lie and spend years building it up, knowing full well that the kid has to learn the truth sooner or later? Not to offend any religious folks in the crowd, but it’s the same way we’re taught that goodness is always rewarded and evil is always punished… another lie that hurts when we learn the truth about the world, the first time we’re robbed, assaulted or worse. Maybe if we allowed children to observe the world as it is, they would grow up better prepared for what’s really in store.
ReplyA lot of religion is offensive. Offensive to women, to gays etc.
Replyim not sure. i agree, but, i kinda dont, its just, 50/50. im just sad how people dont believe in a little fun and magic--- ofcourse, i dont think he's real, but.. bitch im here for the free presents!! new phone in exchange for a letter? a deal!! i sound like a cheap facebook mom, but, i would say i probably agree with you.
ReplyIf you think that his existence is incomprehensible, you should read about other myths and old wives tales to keep children in line. Saint nick had simply become the most accessible and prevalent belief (vs his slightly more historical counterpart) in the way English has become that language everyone knows or is supposed to know a little about.
Some religions, cultures or places can take this belief to limits unimaginable for the average person, and they don't even need to be from modern day. Wasnt easter supposed to be about a dead man rising from the uh, dead? Most of us just enjoy the present giving festivality and take delight in teasing or delighting kids by fulfilling their material wishes secretly- which is about as hit and miss as any other opinionated gift giving occasion might be.
It's a matter of innocence in continuing to believe in innocent things- though perhaps they should at least add the concept of alternate santas in your particular example at least. Stranger danger! Not sure how elaborate lies can be, everyone i know always had a mean relative or two to "ruin" things early and for some kids, even more pragmatic parents could not stop them from believing on their own.
On the other end of things, wasnt Santa meant to be clothed in green? At least until coca-cola decided to run an advertisement campaign and declared him in red, supposedly to complement their beverage.
Replyyou raise some interesting points here. I agree that in my original post I didn't allow for another intention of parents using Santa other than bribery. Parents enjoy giving their children good gifts, and Santa is a fun way to do that in secret. If anything, its a credit to parents to fulfill their children's wishes and give the credit to another guy, only delighting in their children's joy and not expecting any thanks. Also I agree that because Santa is so prevalent in the secular celebration of Christmas, it's natural for children to believe anyway despite their parents teaching them otherwise, at least somewhat.
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