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Something I’ve thought about as a black American is sometimes white people will compare us to Asians. Earlier today I was reading some comment section where people were justifying Hiroshima or whatever and something made sense to me. White people will say the Japanese are better than Africans, but then they’ll say it was fine to kill Japanese people that did nothing wrong… because of their culture. The more I think about that, the more I find it kinda concerning. Because conservatives in America will say similar things about the Chinese today. “Oh the Chinese are so hardworking and smart that’s why there’s more of them in college than black people because black culture sucks.” Then 5 minutes later they’re talking about killing all the “Chinese commies.” If white people like Asians more than they like black people, but yet they wanna kill Asians, now what does that really mean for black people? Also the hypocrisy bothers me. Like when white people try and justify Hiroshima by mentioning war crimes in one specific Chinese city. Like what, did you all forget what you were doing for hundreds of years to people all over the planet or something? Before Muttr got shut down one guy on Muttr got mad at me and called me “pro Russian” for my opinion on Hiroshima. TBH that’s the one thing that’s kinda difficult to fit into my worldview. On the one hand, nazis are bad, on the other hand, white people burning non white people alive who did nothing wrong, that’s not something I’m sure how to justify to myself. And people will say things like “oh the Japanese were worse than the British” or “oh the Japanese were worse than the Nazis” but I mean to actually say that out loud that the Japanese were worse than the British when the British enslaved my ancestors would feel like a joke or something. And then with the whole thing in Gaza now where they’re calling the Palestinians Nazis. I mean, I’m not pro fascist or pro authoritarianism or pro nazism or anything. But like Dresden for example, I’ve been there, it’s like… idk. Would it really be a crazy position to have that there were no good guys in World War Two? Would that be a crazy position to take? Because I mean, in America, they were setting black people on fire in the south and cutting their genitalia off and stuff. If burning Japanese people wasn’t “racially motivated” and we just did it “because we were at war with them” doesn’t the fact that Americans were setting black Americans on fire when they weren’t at war with black people… doesn’t that fact at least have some level of importance? Or the fact that millions of Indians died during WWII. But nah, the British where the good guys because the Jews are more important than the Indians so you can forget about what happened to the Indians. It’s like white people think they’re more important or something.
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As a black man I come to realize that the government wants us to blame whatever race for hatred. They want us divided so they can continue to steal from the public. All of us white, black m, Asian, Hispanic. Another thing they also want is for us to continue to fill up their prisons for slave labor. Blame white people for all of our short comings instead of keeping the father in the house and stop promoting ratchet gang behavior. Join me in making our race better.
ReplyAlso the fact that one of the main arguments for the bomb was that Japanese people were so religious and so obsessed with the emperor they were all going to fight to the death yet I can’t seem to find any coherent explanation of what the political ideology of imperial Japan was kind of suspicious. I also googled it because I was curious, that whole emphasis on “the Japanese would rather die than surrender” by law, American soldiers actually aren’t supposed to surrender even under threat of death under our current laws. It also plays into the myth that the Japanese were somehow special or unique or something. Then I was looking into Nigerian history, which is generally a country whites would look down on more than Japan. In the Oyo empire in pre-colonial Nigeria, they actually took ritual suicide so far if they lost a war they’d make their Oba (king) commit ritual suicide. It’s not even a uniquely Japanese thing in the first place. It’s such a simple argument but it just doesn’t really make much sense.
ReplyI wrote a comment but it got automatically flagged because it had the word s*****de in it. Basically I was just saying it’s ironic because American soldiers actually aren’t supposed to surrender even under threat of de*th and it’s also ironic because it isn’t even uniquely Japanese. Like in the Oyo Empire in pre-colonial Nigeria they took it so far they’d literally make their Oba (king) commit ritual s*****de if they lost a war.
ReplyHow come no one else is addressing this guy blames white people for all of blacks problems? Can’t we just take responsibility
ReplyI am white and I have never said it was good to kill Japanese for any reason whatsoever. To say that is absolutely dreadful.
ReplyYour post covers a great deal of different topics that would take months to unpick. I’m not American or black so I can’t give an educated perspective from the same angle as you. But one thing I will say is there’s a lot of hypocrisy amongst almost everyone.
ReplyMostly I just vaguely have a distrust of American society in general and the general direction it’s headed in, and that is vaguely informed by America’s past and ongoing trends I see. For example, Hiroshima was 80 years ago, but Gaza really reminds me of that. It’s the same sort of thing. The Palestinians did “war crimes” like the Japanese did “war crimes” and now it’s okay to kill all of them. I understand I’m generalizing and not all white people obviously have this perspective as individuals, but I’m thinking about American society as a collective. Whatever potential allowed us to do certain things in the past, I think there is some reason to believe that people in the modern day still have the capability, the capacity, the means, and an ideology that is consistent with being able to repeat stuff like that. If I try and explain it simply, it’s difficult, but it’s more than one thing, this isn’t the only thing. I just feel like it isn’t unreasonable to mistrust the stability of this system and the populace as a whole. I just have a gut feeling about it that’s hard to shake off.
ReplyAnd I mean, the ultimate implication of all of these things is that it’s basically okay for white people to kill innocent people and they can make up whatever justification they feel like, but if any other race does it, blacks, Arabs, Asians, then they can be condemned for the same action. But if there is someone who believes they can do no wrong, but they constantly feel wronged by others for the same actions, yet they feel retaliation is justified, is something about that not inherently dangerous or possibly even a bit psychopathic? It inherently lacks empathy and justifies extreme violence. And it’s not just conservatives, it’s liberals.
ReplyDropping the bombs on Japan is supposed to have shortened the War by a couple of years. The Japanese weren't going to surrender, so the USA forced them to by dropping the bombs. So in the long run, it maybe saved more lives over all but of course innocent Japanese were murdered in that process.
ReplyHonestly, if more Japanese people did die if we didn’t firebomb Japan and we didn’t nuke Japan… wait if we were trying to cut civilian casualties why were we’re explicitly targeting civilians in the first place again? It’s a stupid argument.
ReplyIf we were burning their cities and putting their race in camps, why should they have surrendered?
ReplyMaybe Russia should drop a nuke on Ukraine because the Ukrainians won’t surrender. What other country in the history of the world was that ever an excuse for? You can justify the holocaust for the exact same reason. The Jews weren’t going to leave Germany, so of course we had to burn them, they weren’t going to quit otherwise. How is burning the Japanese better than burning the Jews?
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